Oliprog's Engines and Book Tests

kramnik · Post by **kramnik** » 28/03/2020, 20:11

I am going to give you my book and to Hurnavich too, if he gives me his OutSkirts.

Post by **Hurnavich** » 29/03/2020, 6:10

kramnik wrote:I am going to give you my book and to Hurnavich too, if he gives me his OutSkirts.

Hi, you may not want it after i loose in the tournament,if i remember correct you were going to send it anyway after i did you a favour.
But no problem i'm waiting to see how well it does i take it your not entering then?as The OutSkirts Rebels is living up to it's name of rebel without a cause

kramnik · Post by **kramnik** » 29/03/2020, 7:06

Hurnavich wrote:Hi, you may not want it after i loose in the tournament,if i remember correct you were going to send it anyway after i did you a favour.
But no problem i'm waiting to see how well it does i take it your not entering then?as The OutSkirts Rebels is living up to it's name of rebel without a cause

PMme and send me yours.

Post by **Hurnavich** » 29/03/2020, 7:27

kramnik wrote:
Hurnavich wrote:Hi, you may not want it after i loose in the tournament,if i remember correct you were going to send it anyway after i did you a favour.
But no problem i'm waiting to see how well it does i take it your not entering then?as The OutSkirts Rebels is living up to it's name of rebel without a cause
PMme and send me yours.

Not at this moment in time i'm not open to favours, if you would like to enter unconditionally fine if not then good luck with your books in the future.
The best way to promote books is to enter them into a tournament.

An eg the DON book is commercial yet he is sending his to me to enter without the need for me to exchange my book now that is confidence from a book maker.Are you confident?

kramnik · Post by **kramnik** » 29/03/2020, 14:29

Hurnavich wrote:Not at this moment in time i'm not open to favours, if you would like to enter unconditionally fine if not then good luck with your books in the future.
The best way to promote books is to enter them into a tournament.

An eg the DON book is commercial yet he is sending his to me to enter without the need for me to exchange my book now that is confidence from a book maker.Are you confident?

It was you proposing the exchange in a previous PM....

Post by **Hurnavich** » 29/03/2020, 14:55

kramnik wrote:
Hurnavich wrote:Not at this moment in time i'm not open to favours, if you would like to enter unconditionally fine if not then good luck with your books in the future.
The best way to promote books is to enter them into a tournament.

An eg the DON book is commercial yet he is sending his to me to enter without the need for me to exchange my book now that is confidence from a book maker.Are you confident?
It was you proposing the exchange in a previous PM....

Before that you said you were going to send a copy for the help you had from myself
Then some time past and I suggested an exchange
My book regressed so was no point in exchange
Still no point as the book needs more work

Good luck with your ventures I decline an exchange

Oliprog · Post by **Oliprog** » 29/03/2020, 17:02

Bluefish 2703 vs. Stockfish 220320 64 BMI1

Processor AMD A10 – 9700 R7,10 Compute Cores 4C + 6G - 3.50 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - Windows 10 - 2048 mb hash – Fritz 16 GUI – opening book: ECO Book ctg - final tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5 pieces - both engines play with 4 threads and no large pages

Book Settings:

Minimum Games: 3
Up to Move: 35
Variety of Play: 150%
Influence of Learn Value: 100 %
Learning Strength: 500%

DESKTOP-TORM2PL, Blitz 5min 0

1 Stockfish 220320 64 BMI1 +12/=106/-12 50.00% 65.0/130 4225.00
2 Bluefish 2703 +12/=106/-12 50.00% 65.0/130 4225.00

Games in PGN: http://www.mediafire.com/folder/x3uaeq6k4i0dy/Engmatch_-_9_-_1052

Oliprog · Post by **Oliprog** » 31/03/2020, 15:17

TangoSTE bin vs. Vesely emulator 1 bin

Processor AMD A10 – 9700 R7,10 Compute Cores 4C + 6G - 3.50 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - Windows 10 - 1024 mb hash – Komodo 13 GUI – opening book: GM TangoSTE bin vs. Vesely emulator 1 bin - final tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5 pieces - both engines play with 4 threads and large pages

Book Settings

TangoSTE:

Book Depth 200
Best Book Line Off

Vesely emulator 1 bin:

Book Depth 42
Best Book Line ON

Games in PGN: http://www.mediafire.com/folder/rkz9ma2ova962/TangoSTE_bin_vs._Vesely_emulator_1_bin_test

Congratulations and thanks to the author of Vesely: qeclqatl! (Chess2u forum member)

Oliprog · Post by **Oliprog** » 01/04/2020, 17:08

AI 9.2 64 M vs. Brainfish 220320 64 POPCNT

Processor AMD A10 – 9700 R7,10 Compute Cores 4C + 6G - 3.50 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - Windows 10 - 2048 mb hash – Komodo 13 GUI – opening book: 8 Moves v3 Opening Test Suite - final tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5 pieces - both engines play with 4 threads and large pages

DESKTOP-TORM2PL, Blitz 5min 0

1 Brainfish 220320 64 POPCNT +16 +14/=106/-8 52.34% 67.0/128
2 AI 9.2 64 M -16 +8/=106/-14 47.66% 61.0/128

Games in PGN: http://www.mediafire.com/folder/lf1nwymh4nnbd/Engmatch_-_9_-_1053

Oliprog · Post by **Oliprog** » 02/04/2020, 14:58

Radar 200401 vs. Fres

Processor AMD A10 – 9700 R7,10 Compute Cores 4C + 6G - 3.50 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - Windows 10 - 2048 mb hash - Komodo 13 GUI – opening book: Radar 200401 ctg vs. Fres ctg - final tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5 pieces - both engines play with 4 threads and large pages

Book Settings:

Radar 200401

1.Tournament ON
2.Min games 1-100
3.variety of play 50%
4.influence of learn 100%
5.Learning strength 500%

Fres

1. Tournament ON
2. Min games 0-100
3. Variety of play 50%
4. Influence of learn 100%
5. Learning strength 100%

DESKTOP-TORM2PL, Blitz 5min 0

1 Brainfish 220320 64 POPCNT Fr +5/=170/-5 50.00% 90.0/180 8100.00
2 Brainfish 220320 64 POPCNT Ra +5/=170/-5 50.00% 90.0/180 8100.00

Games in PGN: http://www.mediafire.com/folder/d79gvs2mxzep3/Radar_200401_vs._Fres

Thanks to the author of Fres Cevdet Sari!

Scorpio · Post by **Scorpio** » 02/04/2020, 15:42

Getting a draw with the SCCT current leader, after 180 games, tastes like a win!

Thanks for the test Oliprog!

Oliprog · Post by **Oliprog** » 03/04/2020, 15:19

CorChess 6.0 010420 64 POPCNT vs. Stockfish 220320 64 BMI1

Processor AMD A10 – 9700 R7,10 Compute Cores 4C + 6G - 3.50 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - Windows 10 - 2048 mb hash – Komodo 13 GUI – opening book: Fics Top 5 ctg - final tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5 pieces - both engines play with 4 threads and no large pages

Book Settings:

Minimum Games: 3
Up to Move: 35
Variety of Play: 150%
Influence of Learn Value: 100 %
Learning Strength: 500%

DESKTOP-TORM2PL, Blitz 5min 0

1 Stockfish 220320 64 BMI1 +13 +11/=113/-6 51.92% 67.5/130
2 CorChess 6.0 010420 64 POPCNT -13 +6/=113/-11 48.08% 62.5/130

Games in PGN: http://www.mediafire.com/folder/8h1a41cbnlzi8/Engmatch_-_9_-_1054

Congratulations Romeo!

EdwinZZ · Post by **EdwinZZ** » 03/04/2020, 20:17

Seems that the Stockfish Developers are doing a great job in upgrading stockfish nowadays.. jury_ratings

kramnik · Post by **kramnik** » 03/04/2020, 20:58

EdwinZZ wrote:Seems that the Stockfish Developers are doing a great job in upgrading stockfish nowadays.. jury_ratings

For a 100% reliable test Oliprog should not use opening books.

Peter Grayson · Post by **Peter Grayson** » 03/04/2020, 21:42

kramnik wrote:
EdwinZZ wrote:Seems that the Stockfish Developers are doing a great job in upgrading stockfish nowadays.. jury_ratings
For a 100% reliable test Oliprog should not use opening books.

With the way Oliprog runs the engine matches with a book, both engines play both sides of the same opening and it is a good exercise to see how the engines' handling of the opening may differ. It comes down to personal choice when engine versus engine matches playing without books are, from my perspective, usually no spectacle and very boring affairs. Engines should be tested using contemporary openings to maintain interest in their development. Certainly at the fast time controls and relatively modest hardware most people use, the engine's standard of opening play leaves much to be desired. The main purpose of an engine is surely for what it offers in the middle game and beyond?

Peter

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