Do You know when we should use Defensive option in HoneyR1 ? Default is true.Gator007 wrote:I haven't looked much at the latest Black Diamond, but the HoneyxR1 engine is good for analysis.
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Another friend says this regarding the 'Profound' setting and I quote -
So far I've been unimpressed by Honey and the profound setting. They may be great in positions where there's a move to find, but not a good move chooser when there's several options. Also, if you're going to look for alternative moves anyway, profound is only going to slow you down.
I've not had the opportunity to confirm this - working on the 110gb+ March LiChess database
So far I've been unimpressed by Honey and the profound setting. They may be great in positions where there's a move to find, but not a good move chooser when there's several options. Also, if you're going to look for alternative moves anyway, profound is only going to slow you down.
I've not had the opportunity to confirm this - working on the 110gb+ March LiChess database
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Author: protonspring
Date: Sun Apr 5 08:35:31 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586068531
remove KNPK endgame code
In more than 100k local KNPK games, there is no discernible difference between master and master with this endgame removed: master:42971, patch:42973, draws: 3969. Removal does not seem to regress in normal games.
STC
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 46390 W: 8998 L: 8884 D: 28508 Elo +0.85
Ptnml(0-2): 707, 5274, 11163, 5300, 751
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e83b18ee42a5c3b3ca2ef02
LTC
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 44768 W: 5863 L: 5814 D: 33091 Elo +0.38
Ptnml(0-2): 251, 3918, 14028, 3905, 282
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e84a82a4411759d9d0984f4
In tests with a book of endgames that can convert into KNPK, no significant difference can be seen either
```
TC 1.0+0.01
Score of patch vs master: 6131 - 6188 - 27681 [0.499] 40000
Elo difference: -0.5 +/- 1.9, LOS: 30.4 %, DrawRatio: 69.2 %
TC 2.0+0.02
Score of patch vs master: 5740 - 5741 - 28519 [0.500] 40000
Elo difference: -0.0 +/- 1.8, LOS: 49.6 %, DrawRatio: 71.3 %
``
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2611
Bench 4512059
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Author: 31m059
Date: Sun Apr 5 08:39:00 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586068740
Retire candidate passed pawns
Before this commit, some pawns were considered "candidate" passed pawns and given half bonus. After this commit, all of these pawns are scored as passed pawns, and they do not receive less bonus.
STC:
LLR: 2.95 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 21806 W: 4320 L: 4158 D: 13328 Elo +2.58
Ptnml(0-2): 367, 2526, 5001, 2596, 413
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e86b4724411759d9d098639
LTC:
LLR: 2.95 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 12590 W: 1734 L: 1617 D: 9239 Elo +3.23
Ptnml(0-2): 96, 1187, 3645, 1238, 129
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e86d2874411759d9d098640
This PR and commit are dedicated to our colleague Stefan Geschwentner (@locutus2), one of the most respected and accomplished members of the Stockfish developer community. Stockfish is a volunteer project and has always thrived because of Stefan's talent, insight, generosity, and dedication. Welcome back, Stefan!
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2613
Bench: 4831963
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Author: Vizvezdenec
Date: Sun Apr 5 08:44:25 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586069065
Further increase reductions with increasing number of threads
This patch doubles the reduction increase with thread count.
passed STC
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e874f5a4411759d9d098696
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-0.50,1.50}
Total: 9162 W: 1558 L: 1385 D: 6219 Elo +6.56
Ptnml(0-2): 90, 958, 2343, 1069, 121
passed LTC
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e8762804411759d9d09869f
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {0.25,1.75}
Total: 79364 W: 9541 L: 9159 D: 60664 Elo +1.67
Ptnml(0-2): 462, 6880, 24661, 7172, 507
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2615
bench 4831963
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Date: Sun Apr 5 08:35:31 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586068531
remove KNPK endgame code
In more than 100k local KNPK games, there is no discernible difference between master and master with this endgame removed: master:42971, patch:42973, draws: 3969. Removal does not seem to regress in normal games.
STC
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 46390 W: 8998 L: 8884 D: 28508 Elo +0.85
Ptnml(0-2): 707, 5274, 11163, 5300, 751
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e83b18ee42a5c3b3ca2ef02
LTC
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 44768 W: 5863 L: 5814 D: 33091 Elo +0.38
Ptnml(0-2): 251, 3918, 14028, 3905, 282
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e84a82a4411759d9d0984f4
In tests with a book of endgames that can convert into KNPK, no significant difference can be seen either
```
TC 1.0+0.01
Score of patch vs master: 6131 - 6188 - 27681 [0.499] 40000
Elo difference: -0.5 +/- 1.9, LOS: 30.4 %, DrawRatio: 69.2 %
TC 2.0+0.02
Score of patch vs master: 5740 - 5741 - 28519 [0.500] 40000
Elo difference: -0.0 +/- 1.8, LOS: 49.6 %, DrawRatio: 71.3 %
``
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2611
Bench 4512059
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Author: 31m059
Date: Sun Apr 5 08:39:00 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586068740
Retire candidate passed pawns
Before this commit, some pawns were considered "candidate" passed pawns and given half bonus. After this commit, all of these pawns are scored as passed pawns, and they do not receive less bonus.
STC:
LLR: 2.95 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 21806 W: 4320 L: 4158 D: 13328 Elo +2.58
Ptnml(0-2): 367, 2526, 5001, 2596, 413
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e86b4724411759d9d098639
LTC:
LLR: 2.95 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 12590 W: 1734 L: 1617 D: 9239 Elo +3.23
Ptnml(0-2): 96, 1187, 3645, 1238, 129
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e86d2874411759d9d098640
This PR and commit are dedicated to our colleague Stefan Geschwentner (@locutus2), one of the most respected and accomplished members of the Stockfish developer community. Stockfish is a volunteer project and has always thrived because of Stefan's talent, insight, generosity, and dedication. Welcome back, Stefan!
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2613
Bench: 4831963
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Author: Vizvezdenec
Date: Sun Apr 5 08:44:25 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586069065
Further increase reductions with increasing number of threads
This patch doubles the reduction increase with thread count.
passed STC
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e874f5a4411759d9d098696
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-0.50,1.50}
Total: 9162 W: 1558 L: 1385 D: 6219 Elo +6.56
Ptnml(0-2): 90, 958, 2343, 1069, 121
passed LTC
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e8762804411759d9d09869f
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {0.25,1.75}
Total: 79364 W: 9541 L: 9159 D: 60664 Elo +1.67
Ptnml(0-2): 462, 6880, 24661, 7172, 507
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2615
bench 4831963
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Author: Vizvezdenec
Date: Tue Apr 7 17:47:01 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586274421
Introduce capture history pruning
This patch introduces a heuristic that is similar to countermove based pruning but for captures - capture history pruning. The idea is that we can (almost) safely prune really late captures with negative history if they don't give check so will most likely not produce some king-attacking tactic.
passed STC
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e8c60d40ffd2be7f15e5470
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-0.50,1.50}
Total: 23748 W: 4758 L: 4529 D: 14461 Elo +3.35
Ptnml(0-2): 421, 2712, 5400, 2899, 442
passed LTC
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e8c72bf0ffd2be7f15e547f
LLR: 2.96 (-2.94,2.94) {0.25,1.75}
Total: 17330 W: 2415 L: 2190 D: 12725 Elo +4.51
Ptnml(0-2): 126, 1561, 5107, 1704, 167
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2618
bench 4417023
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Date: Tue Apr 7 17:47:01 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586274421
Introduce capture history pruning
This patch introduces a heuristic that is similar to countermove based pruning but for captures - capture history pruning. The idea is that we can (almost) safely prune really late captures with negative history if they don't give check so will most likely not produce some king-attacking tactic.
passed STC
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e8c60d40ffd2be7f15e5470
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-0.50,1.50}
Total: 23748 W: 4758 L: 4529 D: 14461 Elo +3.35
Ptnml(0-2): 421, 2712, 5400, 2899, 442
passed LTC
https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/5e8c72bf0ffd2be7f15e547f
LLR: 2.96 (-2.94,2.94) {0.25,1.75}
Total: 17330 W: 2415 L: 2190 D: 12725 Elo +4.51
Ptnml(0-2): 126, 1561, 5107, 1704, 167
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2618
bench 4417023
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Hey all,
This is experimental — it's Stockfish with large pages, the ability to use two books and an optimized time management strategy (it will think longer in critical positions).
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15Vz_12nybs1-wR9BSu-XwhESmZnJ1Crl
This is experimental — it's Stockfish with large pages, the ability to use two books and an optimized time management strategy (it will think longer in critical positions).
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15Vz_12nybs1-wR9BSu-XwhESmZnJ1Crl
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@AmbroxAmbrox wrote:Hey all,
This is experimental — it's Stockfish with large pages, the ability to use two books and an optimized time management strategy (it will think longer in critical positions).
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15Vz_12nybs1-wR9BSu-XwhESmZnJ1Crl
In the 64-bit version you forgot to run the strip command
In accordance with the GPL code it is also necessary to publish the source code in order not to commit a violation.
I invite you to publish the source code thanks.
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Is this the reason why we don't get Raubfisch anymore?M.Z wrote: @Ambrox
In the 64-bit version you forgot to run the strip command
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I invite you to publish the source code thanks.
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I don't know why Karl stopped sharing his engine.kramnik wrote:Is this the reason why we don't get Raubfisch anymore?M.Z wrote: @Ambrox
In the 64-bit version you forgot to run the strip command
In accordance with the GPL code it is also necessary to publish the source code in order not to commit a violation.
I invite you to publish the source code thanks.
We have a section here:
http://outskirts.altervista.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=17
where he always shared.
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Hello everyone
Perhaps one of the reasons that Karl has suspended updates to his excellent engine is due to inadequate requests for source code.
Some were even impolite and aggressive.
I sincerely hope that we can get back to the engine. I love it and have won several tournaments on playchess.com with it.
Greetings from Brazil.
Perhaps one of the reasons that Karl has suspended updates to his excellent engine is due to inadequate requests for source code.
Some were even impolite and aggressive.
I sincerely hope that we can get back to the engine. I love it and have won several tournaments on playchess.com with it.
Greetings from Brazil.
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Me too. It was one of the most aggressive engines I think.mymoso wrote:Hello everyone
Perhaps one of the reasons that Karl has suspended updates to his excellent engine is due to inadequate requests for source code.
Some were even impolite and aggressive.
I sincerely hope that we can get back to the engine. I love it and have won several tournaments on playchess.com with it.
Greetings from Brazil.
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Stockfish Polyglot: Updated Avril, 11 2020.
Changelog: Matching Stockfish beta having timestamp 1586274421 - Introduce capture history pruning.
For Windows and Android (NOT UPDATED FOR ANDROID), NO LINUX, NO MACOS.
Changelog: Matching Stockfish beta having timestamp 1586274421 - Introduce capture history pruning.
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Kramnik:
- First of all, I hope you, family and friends are well, within all this pandemia/quarantine world problem
- Second: thank you for keeping releases of SF bin capable. There is a bit of time I dont test it, though, I want again
- Third, question: Was BIN book "best book move" issue fixed ? It's the reason I stopped using it time ago
Thank you again in advance
- First of all, I hope you, family and friends are well, within all this pandemia/quarantine world problem
- Second: thank you for keeping releases of SF bin capable. There is a bit of time I dont test it, though, I want again
- Third, question: Was BIN book "best book move" issue fixed ? It's the reason I stopped using it time ago
Thank you again in advance
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My family is ok. I didn't change anything in the way I merge the code, so it acts exactly like Brainfish regarding the best book move.
tacos40 wrote:Kramnik:
- First of all, I hope you, family and friends are well, within all this pandemia/quarantine world problem
- Second: thank you for keeping releases of SF bin capable. There is a bit of time I dont test it, though, I want again
- Third, question: Was BIN book "best book move" issue fixed ? It's the reason I stopped using it time ago
Thank you again in advance
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Think there is a problem with this version. It doesn't seem to use bin books configured.kramnik wrote:Stockfish Polyglot: Updated Avril, 11 2020.
Changelog: Matching Stockfish beta having timestamp 1586274421 - Introduce capture history pruning.
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Looking at the web-site the bin books may have their own names and different directories.
On Infinity Chess as a test I use an empty BIX (main) book and configured 2 bin books.
When game started it starts calculating from move one and doesn't play a move from bin books.
Btw does this engine use large pages?
Thanks for you're efforts.
With kind regards FlyingDutchman aka Victorious.
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The latest from: http://abrok.eu/stockfish/
Author: protonspring
Date: Sun Apr 12 20:34:50 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586716490
Always remember the ttMove
In master, if the received ttMove meets the prescribed conditions in the various MovePicker constructors, it is returned as the first move, otherwise we set it to MOVE_NONE. If set to MOVE_NONE, we no longer track what the ttMove was, and it will might be returned later in a list of generated moves. This may be a waste. With this patch, if the ttMove fails to meet the prescribed conditions, we simply skip the TT stages, but still store the move and make sure it's never returned.
STC
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 66424 W: 12903 L: 12806 D: 40715 Elo +0.51
Ptnml(0-2): 1195, 7730, 15230, 7897, 1160
LTC
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 45682 W: 5989 L: 5926 D: 33767 Elo +0.48
Ptnml(0-2): 329, 4361, 13443, 4334, 374
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2616
Bench 4928928
Author: protonspring
Date: Sun Apr 12 20:34:50 2020 +0200
Timestamp: 1586716490
Always remember the ttMove
In master, if the received ttMove meets the prescribed conditions in the various MovePicker constructors, it is returned as the first move, otherwise we set it to MOVE_NONE. If set to MOVE_NONE, we no longer track what the ttMove was, and it will might be returned later in a list of generated moves. This may be a waste. With this patch, if the ttMove fails to meet the prescribed conditions, we simply skip the TT stages, but still store the move and make sure it's never returned.
STC
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 66424 W: 12903 L: 12806 D: 40715 Elo +0.51
Ptnml(0-2): 1195, 7730, 15230, 7897, 1160
LTC
LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) {-1.50,0.50}
Total: 45682 W: 5989 L: 5926 D: 33767 Elo +0.48
Ptnml(0-2): 329, 4361, 13443, 4334, 374
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/2616
Bench 4928928